Faos pointed out that the "climax" scene in Trading Places was "when Jamie Lee Curtis took her sweater off."
Points taken.
I should probably edit the title, but now I kinda think it is funny so it stays!

Eddie Murphy's Trading Places is one of my favorite movies of all time. However, I have always felt a twinge of guilt when I watched the movie with other people.
You see, here's my deep dark secret: I don't really understand what happened during the climatic scene at the commodities exchange! Lucky for me, Wikipedia has the answer:
"With the authentic orange crop report indicating a good harvest of fresh oranges, frozen concentrated orange juice (FCOJ) would be less important to food producers and so would be likely to drop in price once traders heard the news. However, by way of a fraudulent report, the Duke brothers are led to believe that the orange harvest would be less successful, necessitating greater demand for stockpiled FCOJ in orange products in the coming year, thereby driving the price up. By capitalizing on this knowledge (and the Duke brothers' missteps), the protagonists are able to profit by manipulating the futures market as follows:
Understanding futures contracts. Unlike conventional stock, futures contracts can be sold even when the seller does not yet own any of the commodity. A contract to sell, say, 1000 pounds of FCOJ at $1.50 per pound in February merely indicates the seller's obligation to provide and the buyer's obligation to purchase the product at the specified price and time. It does not matter how or where the seller gets the product, as long as, one way or another, he is able to provide it at that price at that time, even if it results in a sale at a loss to him
Here's the scam. In this case, Winthorpe and Valentine first "sell" FCOJ futures at roughly $1.45 per unit, a price inflated by the Dukes themselves (the Duke Brothers' buying leads other traders to believe that the Dukes are trying to corner the market, causing a buying frenzy). Then, when the price falls as a result of the release of the real crop report indicating a good harvest, Winthorpe and Valentine buy futures at roughly $0.22 per unit. Thus, for every future unit they had previously sold at $1.45, they purchase a matching amount for only $0.22, resulting in a profit of over $1.20 per unit (over 545%).
The hard numbers. Though it is not stated in the movie exactly how much they make, if they invested roughly $500,000 from a combination of Winthorpe/Valentine's investment, the Duke's money from buying the "fake" report from a fake Clarence Beeks (Paul Gleason) and Coleman's and Ophelia's savings, they would have turned it into over $2.7 million. It is strongly implied that they purchased additional futures on margin and made dozens (or hundreds) of millions more, since a lesser amount would not bankrupt the Dukes.
"Looking good Billy Ray... Feeling good Lewis!" At the same time, the Duke brothers purchase enormous quantities of FCOJ futures, even at relatively high prices, because they incorrectly expect that the crop report (falsely suggesting a greater need for stockpiled orange juice) will create a demand at even higher prices, securing them a profit. When it turns out that the leaked report they were given was fraudulent and the true report is revealed, the price begins to plummet before they are able to sell off their contracts. So, they are left with an obligation to buy millions of units of FCOJ at a price more than a dollar per unit higher than they can sell them for, bankrupting them." Link
There! Finally I can enjoy the movie in public without shame. (Big thanks to plcmts17 for pointing me to the Wikipedia article. I totally owe you a dollar.)
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Faos pointed out that the "climax" scene in Trading Places was "when Jamie Lee Curtis took her sweater off."
Points taken.
I should probably edit the title, but now I kinda think it is funny so it stays!
haha i thought you were going to talk about something kinky too and was kinda disappointed. but it was a good read anyway. thanks! :-D
It has bugged me for years. A great movie with a fab cast, and my limited knowledge of the stock market stumping me as to how buying for a high price and selling for a low price would make money. Can I DIGG this story? Someone needs to.
Now I don't feel so alone in my confusion. Thanks Paul!
I'll take a rain check on the Digg. Maybe we'll revisit it around Christmas, when they tend to play this movie nonstop. Thanks for the thought, though. =)
Weird thing is, I thought I was the ONLY one who didn't know what the heck was going on either!! You've put to rest one of those lingering unanswered questions I've always wanted resolved...and I'm NOT joking!! Thanks a LOT!
When it's equities being traded, selling what you don't have in anticipation of buying the equity at a lower price and then delivering it a few days later to receive the higher price is called selling short, just in case anyone wanted to know that tidbit. I'm reading one of Jim Cramer's books and he is talking about that now.
Wikipedia is a great source (generally, I have found) for explaining finance terms.
I suppose I am boring but I did think that the climax scene would be about finance.
I just saw it (again for the 100000th time), and never could understand it, and always had this tinkle on the back of my mind about it, so thank you for thAt...
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Thankfully I put the right search terms into Google to find this post!
I have seen this movie at least 7 times and NEVER understood how they "won" at the end. I used to work for a commodities brokerage and retained exactly nothing from it because it seemed like imaginary number in math...made no sense to me.
Thanks for explaining it in a way I can finally grasp!
FINALLY!!! I GET IT!!! I can't tell you how many nights I have laid awake (only after every viewing actually) trying to figure out how they busted the Dukes. Thank You !!!
You got the highlights correct, but missed some key points:
1. They are not buying at 1.42 and selling at $0.22 exactly. They are buying and selling at the market rate, which changes as a consequence of their actions. When they are selling, they start selling at $1.42 and stop selling when the crop report is announced, where the price is at $1.02. For ease of calculation, we can think of it as them trading on average at $1.22.
2. Once the crop report is announced, they wait a bit and then start buying at $0.46 and keep doing so until the end of trading, when the price is at $0.29. So we can think of their average buying price as $0.375.
3. The contracts they are buying and selling are for 15,000 units each.
4. The fact that the Dukes were trading on margin is independent of whether Billy Ray and Lewis do. In fact, Billy Ray and Lewis deliberately do not trade with the Duke's trader, so that they will be left holding a bunch of expensive "buy" contracts at the end of the day. However, it seems likely that Billy Ray and Lewis were trading on margin, since that is the only way to turn $500k into F-U money for 5 people.
questions. Why didnt billy ray and lewis just wait for the price of FOJ to drop at its lowest before they start buying? I mean why did they start buying knowing the price is continuously going down? wouldnt they make more money if they bought the commodity at the following trading day where the price is at its lowest?
tnx for the clarification, i been wondering the same questions ever since i watched the movie...
You beat me to it on point 4], about the trading on margin.
I always assumed that they moved 20,000 contracts based on Winthorpe saying "20,000" at one point.
So a better estimate of their profit based on your figures is:
(122 cents/pound - 37.5 cents/pound) * 15000 pounds/contract * 20000 contracts = $253,500,000.