I think going to college is worth if the student really wants to be there, and is willing to make the financial commitments to do it, regardless of the parents' ability to pay. If you earn it yourself, you appreciate it a lot more. Obviously, if your desired profession requires that degree, it's also necessary.
Yes and no, having gone to college I feel first hand that having a college degree can help in some fields and is a necessity for others like doctors or lawyers teachers etc but with job security out the window I feel a college degree can help you get a few more job interviews but not much else. No amount of education or experience makes anyone immune to downsizing or a layoff unfortunately, these days
Not to mention when I was in HS, the HS and college the curricula in my area have changed alot some for the good and some for the bad. So in my area graduating HS or college really doesn't prepare you for much after you graduate And lord forbid if you loose a good paying job here, because a lot of fast food places, or retailers don't favor the college educated since they know they aren't trapped there like someone with either no education, a GED or HS diploma Having a college degree for many retailers here makes you seem overqualified.
Higher education should be about getting an education and pursuing our intellectual interests. Unfortunately, our society is strongly trending towards using a college degree as a job certificate/prequalification. Too many times a highly qualified worker is turned down because they don't have a college degree. The flip side of that is also true: a college graduate with all those years of inexperience and lack of knowledge gets a top paying job based on their potential over someone who worked their way up.
So, to answer the question of whether a college education is worth the costs given the rewards, it depends on your frame of mind. If it's to get a job, then maybe it isn't worth the cost. Especially if the salary doesn't pay back the costs of tuition/loans fast enough. However, if it's about developing your mind and participating in the conversation of a subject with the rest of humanity over time, well then the costs just might be worth it.
It was helpful for me, although I also had my parents foot the bill. But socially I came into my own, I learned a fair amount, and it helped me get work.
I think it depends on the person. If you know what you want to do and get a job then it is worth the money and the debt. If you are just going to go, then no, you need to get direction first.
Just like any other investment, it has to satisfy a reasonable "business plan." The ROI has to be higher than alternative opportunities and you have to break even within a period you're comfortable with by making more coming out of school than you would not having gone to school. However, the value of college is enhanced by the social opportunities and opportunity to be independent that it provides. It is likely the first proving ground that many people who go to college may have to demonstrate that they can be self-motivated, self-directed, decisive, etc. It gives them a relatively worry-free environment to test out social skills, leadership skills, academic paths/majors. For all of those reasons, it is definitely worth the cost.
No. I went to college and wished I hadn't wasted those years when I could've been working on my business. I didn't learn anything in class that I haven't been able to learn from a book. Invest the money and skip college.
College is definitely worth the investment, IF you do the Return on Investment analysis first and go into a field that is actually going to pay you back for the cost of that degree. As I have discovered while assisting my 16-year-old daughter in her research of schools and programs out there, very often a 2 year Associates Degree from a community college can pay better than a 4 year degree in the Liberal Arts. Business Management, Paralegal Studies, Radiologic Technician.... all fields that require merely an Associates and start out at $40k a year.
There are far too many people out there with BA's and BS's in sociology, education, marketing, and other fields who can't find meaningful work and are now going back to school at community colleges to get their AS in another field so they can pay off those huge student loans they took out to get the BS.
College is worth it if students use the experience to its fullest. The college dorm experience can be a great scaffolded introduction to living on one's own. College courses can train students for specific high paying careers if the student is driven and diligent. College on-campus jobs and career centers can give students work experience and connect students with higher paying employers.
College is not for everyone, but it has the potential to help students grow into productive, world-smart adults.
College is worth the price, but this is coming from me, a person who had the privilege to go to college because my parents footed the tuition bill. It was the late '90s and early '00s, when the cost of education wasn't as obscene as today, and I attended a state school.
I didn't graduate, however, and my two outstanding classes are a thorn in my side. Though I have a full-time job in which I earn more than the median U.S. salary, the lack of a degree has kept other employers from hiring me. Unless an individual has great connections, I don't know how he/she could land a decent-paying job (one that supports mortgage, lifestyle and family) without the backing of a college education.
Im goin to be cooking my mash on and electric stove in a pressure cooker in my kitchen, do I need to start off on low heat or can i just turn it on high??Im goin to be running this with no thermometer...
You have a few choices. If you are running a column, drill a hole in the top of the column. Of you have enough head space in the pot, drill a whole in the lid. If you don't, you can tie one off to the pipe coming out. You do not need the temp of the liquid, the steam works just as well.
I'll have to check out that Harney & Sons' tea. My favorite spicy tea recently has been Stash's Green Tea Chai. I love the not-quite-typical taste of chai spices paired with green tea.
Showing properties is an easy task for an agent; knowing real estate laws and dealing with problems are the primary reasons that buyers and sellers need them. Being lucky on one property does not mean that you can do it by yourself all the time.
The other advantage of DIY is that often its great exercise- you can drop your gym membership! I'm not kidding! I was out move cinder block bricks the other day (I feel like we move them from one spot to the next....and the next) and skipped my workout with my girlfriend. She gave me such crap for it until I informed her I was doing my weight bearing exercise in my own front yard!
Shame on you for making blanket statements about a business that you obviously know nothing about. You also have only met an infintesimal number of agents. To say, for all practical purposes, all of them are evil, etc is more the behavior of a school yard child who has an axe to grind. And in all likelihood created the very situation that caused her to go sour toward Realtors. Not to worry, if I had a customer like you, I would be more than happy to have you find and buy your own home. I have the luxury of working with great customers who appreciate all of the extra things I do to help them sell their homes or buy new ones.
And did you do all of the work that the buyers agent would do?? All of it??? If not, and even then, just because you decide not to use an agent does not entitle you to any of the commission. That is negotiated between the seller and the buyer long before you come on the scene. So don't assume that you are going to get part of it. In most cases, when there is no buyers agent, the listing agents ends up doing twice the work since the buyer has no idea what they are doing. Also, you have had no investment in your work, computers, telecommunication costs, MLS dues, other dues, gas, advertising, lockboxes and on and on. Sorry, but you have no right whatsoever to my commission unless you do EVERYTHING that a buyers agent would do and accept ALL of the risk of doing it yourself. And afterword, all of the blame if you screw up.
Not true. We pay a lot of money for access to the MLS in our area which has most of the homes that have sold locally. Also, in Florida our public records are just that, public.
I think going to college is worth if the student really wants to be there, and is willing to make the financial commitments to do it, regardless of the parents' ability to pay. If you earn it yourself, you appreciate it a lot more. Obviously, if your desired profession requires that degree, it's also necessary.
Yes and no, having gone to college I feel first hand that having a college degree can help in some fields and is a necessity for others like doctors or lawyers teachers etc but with job security out the window I feel a college degree can help you get a few more job interviews but not much else. No amount of education or experience makes anyone immune to downsizing or a layoff unfortunately, these days
Not to mention when I was in HS, the HS and college the curricula in my area have changed alot some for the good and some for the bad. So in my area graduating HS or college really doesn't prepare you for much after you graduate And lord forbid if you loose a good paying job here, because a lot of fast food places, or retailers don't favor the college educated since they know they aren't trapped there like someone with either no education, a GED or HS diploma Having a college degree for many retailers here makes you seem overqualified.
Higher education should be about getting an education and pursuing our intellectual interests. Unfortunately, our society is strongly trending towards using a college degree as a job certificate/prequalification. Too many times a highly qualified worker is turned down because they don't have a college degree. The flip side of that is also true: a college graduate with all those years of inexperience and lack of knowledge gets a top paying job based on their potential over someone who worked their way up.
So, to answer the question of whether a college education is worth the costs given the rewards, it depends on your frame of mind. If it's to get a job, then maybe it isn't worth the cost. Especially if the salary doesn't pay back the costs of tuition/loans fast enough. However, if it's about developing your mind and participating in the conversation of a subject with the rest of humanity over time, well then the costs just might be worth it.
It was helpful for me, although I also had my parents foot the bill. But socially I came into my own, I learned a fair amount, and it helped me get work.
I think it depends on the person. If you know what you want to do and get a job then it is worth the money and the debt. If you are just going to go, then no, you need to get direction first.
College is worth it only if you use the experience to the greatest advantage. Use it to grow, learn about yourself, network with people, etc.
Just like any other investment, it has to satisfy a reasonable "business plan." The ROI has to be higher than alternative opportunities and you have to break even within a period you're comfortable with by making more coming out of school than you would not having gone to school. However, the value of college is enhanced by the social opportunities and opportunity to be independent that it provides. It is likely the first proving ground that many people who go to college may have to demonstrate that they can be self-motivated, self-directed, decisive, etc. It gives them a relatively worry-free environment to test out social skills, leadership skills, academic paths/majors. For all of those reasons, it is definitely worth the cost.
You are welcome Ben!
No. I went to college and wished I hadn't wasted those years when I could've been working on my business. I didn't learn anything in class that I haven't been able to learn from a book. Invest the money and skip college.
College is definitely worth the investment, IF you do the Return on Investment analysis first and go into a field that is actually going to pay you back for the cost of that degree. As I have discovered while assisting my 16-year-old daughter in her research of schools and programs out there, very often a 2 year Associates Degree from a community college can pay better than a 4 year degree in the Liberal Arts. Business Management, Paralegal Studies, Radiologic Technician.... all fields that require merely an Associates and start out at $40k a year.
There are far too many people out there with BA's and BS's in sociology, education, marketing, and other fields who can't find meaningful work and are now going back to school at community colleges to get their AS in another field so they can pay off those huge student loans they took out to get the BS.
It depends. It's not worth going 100k in debt to be a social worker.
You are welcome!
College is worth it if students use the experience to its fullest. The college dorm experience can be a great scaffolded introduction to living on one's own. College courses can train students for specific high paying careers if the student is driven and diligent. College on-campus jobs and career centers can give students work experience and connect students with higher paying employers.
College is not for everyone, but it has the potential to help students grow into productive, world-smart adults.
College is worth the price, but this is coming from me, a person who had the privilege to go to college because my parents footed the tuition bill. It was the late '90s and early '00s, when the cost of education wasn't as obscene as today, and I attended a state school.
I didn't graduate, however, and my two outstanding classes are a thorn in my side. Though I have a full-time job in which I earn more than the median U.S. salary, the lack of a degree has kept other employers from hiring me. Unless an individual has great connections, I don't know how he/she could land a decent-paying job (one that supports mortgage, lifestyle and family) without the backing of a college education.
Im goin to be cooking my mash on and electric stove in a pressure cooker in my kitchen, do I need to start off on low heat or can i just turn it on high??Im goin to be running this with no thermometer...
Does anybody have other grocery-store freshness tricks?
Quincy
You have a few choices. If you are running a column, drill a hole in the top of the column. Of you have enough head space in the pot, drill a whole in the lid. If you don't, you can tie one off to the pipe coming out. You do not need the temp of the liquid, the steam works just as well.
I'll have to check out that Harney & Sons' tea. My favorite spicy tea recently has been Stash's Green Tea Chai. I love the not-quite-typical taste of chai spices paired with green tea.
Thanks for the great group of links, and the mention.
Showing properties is an easy task for an agent; knowing real estate laws and dealing with problems are the primary reasons that buyers and sellers need them. Being lucky on one property does not mean that you can do it by yourself all the time.
I tried out the packing tape as a screen protector hack. It worked! I'm so pleased.
The other advantage of DIY is that often its great exercise- you can drop your gym membership! I'm not kidding! I was out move cinder block bricks the other day (I feel like we move them from one spot to the next....and the next) and skipped my workout with my girlfriend. She gave me such crap for it until I informed her I was doing my weight bearing exercise in my own front yard!
Shame on you for making blanket statements about a business that you obviously know nothing about. You also have only met an infintesimal number of agents. To say, for all practical purposes, all of them are evil, etc is more the behavior of a school yard child who has an axe to grind. And in all likelihood created the very situation that caused her to go sour toward Realtors. Not to worry, if I had a customer like you, I would be more than happy to have you find and buy your own home. I have the luxury of working with great customers who appreciate all of the extra things I do to help them sell their homes or buy new ones.
And did you do all of the work that the buyers agent would do?? All of it??? If not, and even then, just because you decide not to use an agent does not entitle you to any of the commission. That is negotiated between the seller and the buyer long before you come on the scene. So don't assume that you are going to get part of it. In most cases, when there is no buyers agent, the listing agents ends up doing twice the work since the buyer has no idea what they are doing. Also, you have had no investment in your work, computers, telecommunication costs, MLS dues, other dues, gas, advertising, lockboxes and on and on. Sorry, but you have no right whatsoever to my commission unless you do EVERYTHING that a buyers agent would do and accept ALL of the risk of doing it yourself. And afterword, all of the blame if you screw up.
Not true. We pay a lot of money for access to the MLS in our area which has most of the homes that have sold locally. Also, in Florida our public records are just that, public.