Wow. I googled 'Horizon Organic' to read more about the practices behind the chocolate milk I'm currently sipping, and your post was one of the first on the search list. What a shame - someone might actually be fooled by your bait and switch writing into thinking you have some valid points! You've denounced the use of the phrases "antibiotic-free", "no-pesticide" and the like, but those phrases aren't on the package! And your arguments against their claims to pasture the cows amount to some postulation, squash courts, and an utter lack of actual evidence. Before you get too happy about the USDA's statements, you should watch Food Inc. for a small picture of who is running the USDA and who's interests they really have in mind. I'm going to continue drinking my Horizon.
Well said! One of my pet peeves is when people blame fast-food chains for all the fat kids in America. McDonalds doesn't make those kids fat.... their parents' negligence does! I'm not saying kids should never be given French fries, just that parents need to exercise restraint in how often they feed their kids that crap. And the rest of the country needs to wake up and realize that McDonalds is ultimately not to blame for obese children, bad parenting is.
Interesting viewpoint, but I would argue that we shouldn't be grateful for having to pay a lot instead of going bankrupt, but instead should be figuring out why it costs $500 for an ambulance ride? Why does it cost $5,000 for a brain scan? Why does healthcare cost so much less in other countries than our own? Why does the average person in this country utilize twice as much health care cost as any other country and yet it seems we get so much less, as our infant mortality rate is higher than most other countries? If doctors had a menu with prices, would they charge the same price as they do now? I highly doubt it. Insurers are part of the problem as they increase rates and record record profits. Doctors are partly to blame as their rates are extremely high given the amount of time they spend with the patient. Going to a doctor and having them spend 10 minutes with you and getting them to write you a prescription on something you knew you needed is pointless...did they earn that $150 fee? That works out to $900 an hour. The patients, as far as patients on cadilac plans and medicare or medicaid goes are to blame as well, as they will not shop around for cheaper care. Finally the drug companies, lessen the time before drugs can go generic. The answer is making medical costs more transparent and forcing everyone on a high deductible plan and those making less get more tax benefits. That would make it a free market and would truly force everyone to lower prices. I personally will not be satisfied with just squeaking by and not going bankrupt, and I wonder why everyone doesn't feel that way.
I just saw that this weekend. Compared to what I prepare for myself on a daily basis no restaurant impresses me much, and I haven't haven't had anything in several years that was worth the entree price. When I very rarely get something to go, I usually stop at Panera Bread for a panini which doesn't cost that much more than a similarly sized meal at another fast food place. I'm not under any delusion that they're any healthier; I just like their sandwiches.
I think, like most, I fall somewhere in the middle of the two viewpoints in the episode. I don't have a problem with fast food restaurants and think that the gov needs to stay away from lifestyle choices and those who service them. But I also side somewhat with the raw-foodists, because I know that I can quickly prepare a much healthier and cheaper meal out of unprocessed ingredients at home. So the whole idea that fast food is a boon for busy working stiffs is bullshit.
This was a really interesting read. While I get what some of the other commenters were saying, I think the bottom line is that our perception affects our evaluation of the food. Because we expect bad, unhealthy food to come from fast food joints, when we evaluate how healthy they are for us (calories / fat content) we can judge them fairly well because we take where they come from into account.
On the flip side, if something seems like it's from a "healthy" place our perception of that affects our ability to evaluate how healthy that food is for us. I think the bottom line is that we need to be aware of the fact that looks are deceiving.
so, simply by cooking, you feel better about the meat you eat? my guess is that the meat at the grocery store is just as questionable as the restaurants' meat.
While I understand where several of the other commenters are coming from by mentioning the food sourcing, etc. as reasons to still be cautious about fast food, I do appreciate your article as someone who has been dieting in the last six months.
Strictly from a fat and calorie standpoint, it is really alarming to find out how much really is in so much restaurant food. Cream, bad oils, loads of butter. Many higher class restaurants work just as hard to make food "taste good" as the fast food joints. And often times, the hidden ingredients really aren't any better than at fast food restaurants.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but when I eat out a non fast food restaurant, I don't assume the food is healthier. It's usually pretty obvious by just looking at it or reading the menu. Maybe I am not the average consumer?
here is another scam rental from craigslist to add.....beware !
My Dear Thanks for your interest in my house and How are you doing today?
The House Is a 2 br 1.5 ba Single-Family Home. Which My wife and I occupied before leaving for Nigeria. We left on a self Mission following God's Call to Preach the Word and Let people of all Nations Hear About Him. My wife and I thought of ourselves and asked God what we would Give him and He says we should sacrifice our life and give him the best we can,letting humans know about him. The bible account of Luke 12: 29-31, Don’t seek what you will eat or what you will drink; neither be anxious. For the nations of the world seek after all of these things, but your Father knows that you need these things. But seek God’s Kingdom, and all these things will be added to you. We decided to do the missionary work.
Which my family and I have spent so much time and money to maintain it up till its standard. We have been trying our best to make the house as clean as possible, because am a clean person and we don't like dirt around our surroundings and also the Bible says cleanliness is next to Godliness.
So we are looking for a well-behaved, clean and honest tenant to rent out our house too. So we will like you to give us your word and promise us that you will take good care of our house so that we will be happy when we come to visit you in the future.. We would like to work any flexible plan you have on your term of renting, Long or short term or month by month.While we were leaving,we took along with us the keys just to view the Land if it would be favorable for God's Work,on getting down here we decided to stay and Go On preaching the Good News.The Home was Formally FOR SALE but we have decided not to sell anymore so we would lay our head when we do come back to rest. Prior to our arriving back we shall be giving a 90 days notice to you if we finally decide to rent to you.We shall be staying for upwards of five years here doing God's Work. So kindly Get back to us with the application form below.
Note: the Rent is $700
Security Deposit is $700
Total Cost to Move in is $1400
Our cell Number where you can reach us is: 0112347041013190
Here is the address of the house:: 117 Fairview Avenue, Brockton MA 02301
RENT APPLICATION FORM
FIRST NAME:________________
MIDDLE NAME: ________________
LAST NAME: _________________
PROFESSION: ________________
(CELL)PHONE ()_________
(CELL)PHONE () _____________________
(WORK)PHONE () __________
KIDS _____ (YES/NO), HOW MANY _______
PRESENT ADDRESS: ____________________
CITY: ______________
STATE: _____________
ZIP CODE: _______________ HOW LONG? ____________IF RENTING
WHY ARE YOU LEAVING?
IF THIS Home IS BEING GIVEN TO YOU,
HOW LONG DO YOU INTEND STAYING?______________
WHEN DO YOU INTEND MOVING IN? ______________
MONTHLY INCOME:
IF YOU HAVE A PET:
NAME OF PET: _____________
KIND OF PETS: _____________
HABITS
DO YOU SMOKE? ___________
DO YOU DRINK? ______________
DO YOU WORK LATE NIGHT?____
Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file incase of issuing the receipt for you and contacting you.Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the key to you,please we are giving you all this base on trust and again i will want you to stick to your words,you know that,we do not see yet and only putting everything into Gods hand,so please do not let us down in this our property and God bless you more as you do this. Looking forward to hear from you.
Best Regards,
Pastor Wale Johnson.
Cell: 0112347041013190
Interesting. I think that anytime you buy food that you don't make yourself, you should realize that you're taking the chance that it is unhealthy. The only way to 'guarantee' that you're getting what you think you're getting is to make your food yourself. That way, you know what's going into it, you know how it's being prepared, and you can look at the source ingredients to know how much fat, sodium, preservatives and the like are going into your stomach.
Are you kidding me? You're basing your entire assumption on fat and calorie content. Oh, and I watch Penn & Teller's show all the time, and they're very bias, so I wouldn't hold a candle to what they say- they are the entertainment equivalent to McDonald's health image.
There is everything to be afraid of when it comes to eating fast food- the entire process of raising beef, chickens, and produce is unhealthy, inhumane, and goes against their natural process. The end result of this mass production is a nutrition-less meal of artery clogging fat and grease. Think about that- nutrition-less. There are no vitamins or any of the building blocks the body needs to grow.
Healthy foods can be fattening as well, but at least you're receiving a rich source of valuable nutrients.
There's a huge difference between organic, range-free foods- and one of them is that you're a whole lot less likely to die from malnutrition or e-Coli.
I watched the same show and was surprised how, like yours, my opinion changed. The whole series is very interesting and thought provoking. They did a show about organic food and served the same banana in halves, one as a regular banana and the otehr half as an organic banana. People said the organic one was better.
"If BK made healthy burgers from soy, we'd complain. We want meat, we want taste."
BK does have a veggie burger on their menu. No one is complaining. As a vegetarian, I get it frequently. It's delicious and about the same price as its animal flesh counterpart.
Swoopo does sound scary, I've seen the deals there, but from the other commenters experiences it sounds rigged. I think it's a matter of how the rules are set. I've used another pay per bid site and I've been happy with them. I mean, I didn't win, but at least I was able to put the money towards buying the product from them. The price wasn't inflated ten fold like I would have thought either, not the cheapest I found either. However, the point is I would rather use a site that lets you bid your bid money towards buying it, if you don't win, at least then you don't feel screwed or cheated. I'll continue using the Bidarrific.com and maybe next who knows maybe I'll get lucky.
I ordered a pair of glasses from Zenni Optical. I think their website is still zennioptical.com. You don't need a prescription (which is good because mine is long-expired). I think I paid about $24 including shipping. I've been wearing them for over a year since they are my only pair of glasses. They're scratched which is why I'm checking out this article in the first place. Hope this helps someone.
If you found this tip helpful, consider donating to my favorite charity at www.whrr.org
I like how a lot of the comments are very tactful in nature :-). Instead of feeding the trolls you give a good rebuttal and even a thank you!
Anyways, I enjoyed the article and often look for better ways as a male to compromise without letting my female counterpart get what she wants only. I think both with proper education of their options and opinions (i.e. speaking more in depth about the issue and 'drilling' to the core of the issue and finding out why or why not its in the best interest of you/me/us) helps. Its definitely good to find this out early in the relationship because it can set the tone for so much ahead (like looking out to the sky in the morning and seeing dark clouds approaching before heading out to sea-- you can either steer through the storm or avoid it altogether...).
Good sounding foundation material for a solid relationship I'd like to think...
I found Amazon personally easier to manage for bookselling and I liked that so much was built in you didn't have to reinvent the wheel every time you list something. And yes indeed, 1500 books listed. I'm a little bit of a book nerd, I admit.
Yrs ago an old friend used the line, "There are starving children in China". His 5 yr old daughter's response was, "Name two". She didn't have to finish her dinner that night while her parents stared at her in disbelief.
Wow. I googled 'Horizon Organic' to read more about the practices behind the chocolate milk I'm currently sipping, and your post was one of the first on the search list. What a shame - someone might actually be fooled by your bait and switch writing into thinking you have some valid points! You've denounced the use of the phrases "antibiotic-free", "no-pesticide" and the like, but those phrases aren't on the package! And your arguments against their claims to pasture the cows amount to some postulation, squash courts, and an utter lack of actual evidence. Before you get too happy about the USDA's statements, you should watch Food Inc. for a small picture of who is running the USDA and who's interests they really have in mind. I'm going to continue drinking my Horizon.
Thanks, Nicole -- these are all great insights and tips. Thanks for passing them along!
Finally, some common sense!
Well said! One of my pet peeves is when people blame fast-food chains for all the fat kids in America. McDonalds doesn't make those kids fat.... their parents' negligence does! I'm not saying kids should never be given French fries, just that parents need to exercise restraint in how often they feed their kids that crap. And the rest of the country needs to wake up and realize that McDonalds is ultimately not to blame for obese children, bad parenting is.
Interesting viewpoint, but I would argue that we shouldn't be grateful for having to pay a lot instead of going bankrupt, but instead should be figuring out why it costs $500 for an ambulance ride? Why does it cost $5,000 for a brain scan? Why does healthcare cost so much less in other countries than our own? Why does the average person in this country utilize twice as much health care cost as any other country and yet it seems we get so much less, as our infant mortality rate is higher than most other countries? If doctors had a menu with prices, would they charge the same price as they do now? I highly doubt it. Insurers are part of the problem as they increase rates and record record profits. Doctors are partly to blame as their rates are extremely high given the amount of time they spend with the patient. Going to a doctor and having them spend 10 minutes with you and getting them to write you a prescription on something you knew you needed is pointless...did they earn that $150 fee? That works out to $900 an hour. The patients, as far as patients on cadilac plans and medicare or medicaid goes are to blame as well, as they will not shop around for cheaper care. Finally the drug companies, lessen the time before drugs can go generic. The answer is making medical costs more transparent and forcing everyone on a high deductible plan and those making less get more tax benefits. That would make it a free market and would truly force everyone to lower prices. I personally will not be satisfied with just squeaking by and not going bankrupt, and I wonder why everyone doesn't feel that way.
I just saw that this weekend. Compared to what I prepare for myself on a daily basis no restaurant impresses me much, and I haven't haven't had anything in several years that was worth the entree price. When I very rarely get something to go, I usually stop at Panera Bread for a panini which doesn't cost that much more than a similarly sized meal at another fast food place. I'm not under any delusion that they're any healthier; I just like their sandwiches.
I think, like most, I fall somewhere in the middle of the two viewpoints in the episode. I don't have a problem with fast food restaurants and think that the gov needs to stay away from lifestyle choices and those who service them. But I also side somewhat with the raw-foodists, because I know that I can quickly prepare a much healthier and cheaper meal out of unprocessed ingredients at home. So the whole idea that fast food is a boon for busy working stiffs is bullshit.
Another option is to get allergy shots. My insurance covers it in full (I don't even pay a co-pay).
fare, not fair
This was a really interesting read. While I get what some of the other commenters were saying, I think the bottom line is that our perception affects our evaluation of the food. Because we expect bad, unhealthy food to come from fast food joints, when we evaluate how healthy they are for us (calories / fat content) we can judge them fairly well because we take where they come from into account.
On the flip side, if something seems like it's from a "healthy" place our perception of that affects our ability to evaluate how healthy that food is for us. I think the bottom line is that we need to be aware of the fact that looks are deceiving.
so, simply by cooking, you feel better about the meat you eat? my guess is that the meat at the grocery store is just as questionable as the restaurants' meat.
While I understand where several of the other commenters are coming from by mentioning the food sourcing, etc. as reasons to still be cautious about fast food, I do appreciate your article as someone who has been dieting in the last six months.
Strictly from a fat and calorie standpoint, it is really alarming to find out how much really is in so much restaurant food. Cream, bad oils, loads of butter. Many higher class restaurants work just as hard to make food "taste good" as the fast food joints. And often times, the hidden ingredients really aren't any better than at fast food restaurants.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but when I eat out a non fast food restaurant, I don't assume the food is healthier. It's usually pretty obvious by just looking at it or reading the menu. Maybe I am not the average consumer?
here is another scam rental from craigslist to add.....beware !
My Dear Thanks for your interest in my house and How are you doing today?
The House Is a 2 br 1.5 ba Single-Family Home. Which My wife and I occupied before leaving for Nigeria. We left on a self Mission following God's Call to Preach the Word and Let people of all Nations Hear About Him. My wife and I thought of ourselves and asked God what we would Give him and He says we should sacrifice our life and give him the best we can,letting humans know about him. The bible account of Luke 12: 29-31, Don’t seek what you will eat or what you will drink; neither be anxious. For the nations of the world seek after all of these things, but your Father knows that you need these things. But seek God’s Kingdom, and all these things will be added to you. We decided to do the missionary work.
Which my family and I have spent so much time and money to maintain it up till its standard. We have been trying our best to make the house as clean as possible, because am a clean person and we don't like dirt around our surroundings and also the Bible says cleanliness is next to Godliness.
So we are looking for a well-behaved, clean and honest tenant to rent out our house too. So we will like you to give us your word and promise us that you will take good care of our house so that we will be happy when we come to visit you in the future.. We would like to work any flexible plan you have on your term of renting, Long or short term or month by month.While we were leaving,we took along with us the keys just to view the Land if it would be favorable for God's Work,on getting down here we decided to stay and Go On preaching the Good News.The Home was Formally FOR SALE but we have decided not to sell anymore so we would lay our head when we do come back to rest. Prior to our arriving back we shall be giving a 90 days notice to you if we finally decide to rent to you.We shall be staying for upwards of five years here doing God's Work. So kindly Get back to us with the application form below.
Note: the Rent is $700
Security Deposit is $700
Total Cost to Move in is $1400
Our cell Number where you can reach us is: 0112347041013190
Here is the address of the house:: 117 Fairview Avenue, Brockton MA 02301
RENT APPLICATION FORM
FIRST NAME:________________
MIDDLE NAME: ________________
LAST NAME: _________________
PROFESSION: ________________
(CELL)PHONE ()_________
(CELL)PHONE () _____________________
(WORK)PHONE () __________
KIDS _____ (YES/NO), HOW MANY _______
PRESENT ADDRESS: ____________________
CITY: ______________
STATE: _____________
ZIP CODE: _______________ HOW LONG? ____________IF RENTING
WHY ARE YOU LEAVING?
IF THIS Home IS BEING GIVEN TO YOU,
HOW LONG DO YOU INTEND STAYING?______________
WHEN DO YOU INTEND MOVING IN? ______________
MONTHLY INCOME:
IF YOU HAVE A PET:
NAME OF PET: _____________
KIND OF PETS: _____________
HABITS
DO YOU SMOKE? ___________
DO YOU DRINK? ______________
DO YOU WORK LATE NIGHT?____
Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file incase of issuing the receipt for you and contacting you.Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the key to you,please we are giving you all this base on trust and again i will want you to stick to your words,you know that,we do not see yet and only putting everything into Gods hand,so please do not let us down in this our property and God bless you more as you do this. Looking forward to hear from you.
Best Regards,
Pastor Wale Johnson.
Cell: 0112347041013190
Interesting. I think that anytime you buy food that you don't make yourself, you should realize that you're taking the chance that it is unhealthy. The only way to 'guarantee' that you're getting what you think you're getting is to make your food yourself. That way, you know what's going into it, you know how it's being prepared, and you can look at the source ingredients to know how much fat, sodium, preservatives and the like are going into your stomach.
Are you kidding me? You're basing your entire assumption on fat and calorie content. Oh, and I watch Penn & Teller's show all the time, and they're very bias, so I wouldn't hold a candle to what they say- they are the entertainment equivalent to McDonald's health image.
There is everything to be afraid of when it comes to eating fast food- the entire process of raising beef, chickens, and produce is unhealthy, inhumane, and goes against their natural process. The end result of this mass production is a nutrition-less meal of artery clogging fat and grease. Think about that- nutrition-less. There are no vitamins or any of the building blocks the body needs to grow.
Healthy foods can be fattening as well, but at least you're receiving a rich source of valuable nutrients.
There's a huge difference between organic, range-free foods- and one of them is that you're a whole lot less likely to die from malnutrition or e-Coli.
I watched the same show and was surprised how, like yours, my opinion changed. The whole series is very interesting and thought provoking. They did a show about organic food and served the same banana in halves, one as a regular banana and the otehr half as an organic banana. People said the organic one was better.
Correction:
"If BK made healthy burgers from soy, we'd complain. We want meat, we want taste."
BK does have a veggie burger on their menu. No one is complaining. As a vegetarian, I get it frequently. It's delicious and about the same price as its animal flesh counterpart.
Prepaid is obviously the better bargain. The big companies like to overcharge you for their expensive service providers.
I use it on my baby, and I've never had a problem behind yet ;)
Swoopo does sound scary, I've seen the deals there, but from the other commenters experiences it sounds rigged. I think it's a matter of how the rules are set. I've used another pay per bid site and I've been happy with them. I mean, I didn't win, but at least I was able to put the money towards buying the product from them. The price wasn't inflated ten fold like I would have thought either, not the cheapest I found either. However, the point is I would rather use a site that lets you bid your bid money towards buying it, if you don't win, at least then you don't feel screwed or cheated. I'll continue using the Bidarrific.com and maybe next who knows maybe I'll get lucky.
I ordered a pair of glasses from Zenni Optical. I think their website is still zennioptical.com. You don't need a prescription (which is good because mine is long-expired). I think I paid about $24 including shipping. I've been wearing them for over a year since they are my only pair of glasses. They're scratched which is why I'm checking out this article in the first place. Hope this helps someone.
If you found this tip helpful, consider donating to my favorite charity at
www.whrr.org
Thanks. :)
-McKay
I like how a lot of the comments are very tactful in nature :-). Instead of feeding the trolls you give a good rebuttal and even a thank you!
Anyways, I enjoyed the article and often look for better ways as a male to compromise without letting my female counterpart get what she wants only. I think both with proper education of their options and opinions (i.e. speaking more in depth about the issue and 'drilling' to the core of the issue and finding out why or why not its in the best interest of you/me/us) helps. Its definitely good to find this out early in the relationship because it can set the tone for so much ahead (like looking out to the sky in the morning and seeing dark clouds approaching before heading out to sea-- you can either steer through the storm or avoid it altogether...).
Good sounding foundation material for a solid relationship I'd like to think...
I found Amazon personally easier to manage for bookselling and I liked that so much was built in you didn't have to reinvent the wheel every time you list something. And yes indeed, 1500 books listed. I'm a little bit of a book nerd, I admit.
Renae, I am still laughing at that story. Thanks for the hilarious comment!
Yrs ago an old friend used the line, "There are starving children in China". His 5 yr old daughter's response was, "Name two". She didn't have to finish her dinner that night while her parents stared at her in disbelief.